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Post  PrinceGameNerd on Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:16 pm

Damage control, and Sony fanboys as "tools", Nintendo fanboys as "drones" and Microsoft fanboys as "bots".

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Post  Admin on Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:51 pm

So this is what "hardcore" and "casual" has turned into, eh? It could make for a good skit. (Yes, I've been watching Whose Line is it Anyway?)
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Post  PrinceGameNerd on Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:33 pm

Speaking of hardcore and casual...


Come to think of it, Words like the following, Hardcore, Core Audience, Casual and Gimmicks are often misused, Hardcore gaming use to mean someone plugging hours into a game, getting everything and beating every difficulty setting, Causal gaming use to mean playing games on the side, like tetris, or solitaire when you're bored, Nowadays, causal gaming seems to mean playing a game on easy mode. never mind if the game was aimed at it's particular fan base, Now hardcore means the game has to be insanely hard, for the sake of a challenge, only few people would play and mainly play for status instead of fun, Where it's suppose to be complex strategy and mind games, I call that mindset the 'Light Yagami Syndrome".

-blazingsonic


Hardcore and casual still mean the same, but most gamers don't seem to know what it means. Hardcore gamers are merely dedicated gamers. Core gamers... that's a BS term that someone came up with in this generation, with the Wii audience. All of a sudden, the ones that were casuals have become core gamers, while the Wii audience have become casual gamers. While, in reality, they're both just 2 different types of casual gaming. One of them plays the simple games for fun. Other other audience plays the more complex games for fun, often doing multiplayer a few times a week for an hour or 2, or sometimes a night. Even so, they usually don't really qualify for a hardcore gamer in terms of dedication... but many casuals do play games hardcore at times, and hardcore gamers play plenty of games in a casual way (though often huge amounts of these). I'd say a mom that can get to the max level in Tetris is pretty hardcore at that game.

By the way, hardcore gaming doesn't mean a game has to be hard or something. Speedrunning is generally seen as hardcore gaming. Same as no-damage runs, or low-level runs in RPG's. Generally, hardcore gamers do things in games most other people wouldn't bother doing. Some games, like Ikaruga, do require hardcore dedication to play. But if that isn't offered, a hardcore gamer can still play other games in hardcore ways.

For example... just beating SM64 with about 70 stars is casual. Beating SM64 with 120 stars is a bit impressive. But speedrunning SM64 with 120 stars within just a couple of hours, using very risky paths/shortcuts, methods and glitches to do so... that's pretty hardcore. Or hell, even trying to get max score with the coins is pretty hardcore. Or glitching your way to beat the game with a very low amount of stars (so low it would normally be impossible).

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Post  Admin on Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:01 pm

PrinceGameNerd wrote:Speaking of hardcore and casual...


Come to think of it, Words like the following, Hardcore, Core Audience, Casual and Gimmicks are often misused, Hardcore gaming use to mean someone plugging hours into a game, getting everything and beating every difficulty setting, Causal gaming use to mean playing games on the side, like tetris, or solitaire when you're bored, Nowadays, causal gaming seems to mean playing a game on easy mode. never mind if the game was aimed at it's particular fan base, Now hardcore means the game has to be insanely hard, for the sake of a challenge, only few people would play and mainly play for status instead of fun, Where it's suppose to be complex strategy and mind games, I call that mindset the 'Light Yagami Syndrome".

-blazingsonic


Hardcore and casual still mean the same, but most gamers don't seem to know what it means. Hardcore gamers are merely dedicated gamers. Core gamers... that's a BS term that someone came up with in this generation, with the Wii audience. All of a sudden, the ones that were casuals have become core gamers, while the Wii audience have become casual gamers. While, in reality, they're both just 2 different types of casual gaming. One of them plays the simple games for fun. Other other audience plays the more complex games for fun, often doing multiplayer a few times a week for an hour or 2, or sometimes a night. Even so, they usually don't really qualify for a hardcore gamer in terms of dedication... but many casuals do play games hardcore at times, and hardcore gamers play plenty of games in a casual way (though often huge amounts of these). I'd say a mom that can get to the max level in Tetris is pretty hardcore at that game.

By the way, hardcore gaming doesn't mean a game has to be hard or something. Speedrunning is generally seen as hardcore gaming. Same as no-damage runs, or low-level runs in RPG's. Generally, hardcore gamers do things in games most other people wouldn't bother doing. Some games, like Ikaruga, do require hardcore dedication to play. But if that isn't offered, a hardcore gamer can still play other games in hardcore ways.

For example... just beating SM64 with about 70 stars is casual. Beating SM64 with 120 stars is a bit impressive. But speedrunning SM64 with 120 stars within just a couple of hours, using very risky paths/shortcuts, methods and glitches to do so... that's pretty hardcore. Or hell, even trying to get max score with the coins is pretty hardcore. Or glitching your way to beat the game with a very low amount of stars (so low it would normally be impossible).

-nonexistinghero

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Re: The new "Hardcore" and "Casual"...

Post  PrinceGameNerd on Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:50 pm

More comments on hardcore and casual.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/59393775

EDIT: I posted this before seeing the update on your rant.
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